Monday, November 15, 2010

Prophecy


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THE CHURCH AND ISRAEL IN SCRIPTURE

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Part 8: The Mystery Of God Revealed To Save Both Jew And Gentile
GOD PLANNED TO ADOPT THE GENTILES INTO ISRAEL THROUGH JESUS
(Gal 6:15 KJV) For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
Paul taught that Christians are new creatures in Christ, those who had circumsized their hearts. The natural sons of Abraham who rejected Christ are not part of the Church:


(Rom 2:28 KJV) For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: {29} But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
The unbelieving Jews rebuked by John the Baptist and Jesus were cut off from the Jews who did believe and who now formed the Church. The Gentiles who came to believe later through Paul's preaching would be added to the believing Jews. These Gentiles did not become Jews. They became the spiritual sons of Abraham by faith after the Spirit. They became members of the one body of Christ. All of these believers would be counted as the spiritual children of Abraham and would be the dwelling place of God in the Spirit. According to God's plan, the unbelieving Jews would be dispersed, to be regathered in the latter days when God brings out the final remnant from natural Israel. Until then, the gospel would be preached to all nations, to the Jews and the Gentiles alike.
THE GENTILE SAINTS ARE NOW ONE BODY WITH BELIEVING ISRAEL IN CHRIST
Under the Old Covenant, the Gentiles were "aliens from the commonwealth of Israel" and "strangers from the covenants of promise." Under the New Covenant we are "MADE NIGH" to the "commonwealth," meaning, the heavenly one. On earth, the Jew and the Gentile become members of the one body of Christ and form the spiritual temple where God dwells while we await the Lord's personal, visible return to set up the visible kingdom of God on earth. In Christ, we are now "fellow citizens" with the Old Testament saints in heaven, and we are part of the "household of God":


(Eph 2:11-22 KJV) Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; {12} That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: {13} But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. {14} For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; {15} Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; {16} And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: {17} And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. {18} For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. {19} Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; {20} And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; {21} In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: {22} In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.


Its important to note what these verses say about the Gentiles "in time past" who came to believe:


  1. They were the "uncircumcision"
  2. They were "aliens from the commonwealth of Israel"
  3. They were strangers from the covenants of promise
  4. They had "no hope"
  5. They were "without God in the world"
But now, Paul says, as believing Gentiles, they are part of the one new man along with the Jews who believe, all being the spiritual sons of Abraham, who now have access to the heavenly sanctuary through the shed blood of Jesus by His Spirit:


  1. They "are made nigh by the blood of Christ"
  2. They are "no more strangers and foreigners"
  3. They are now "fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God"
  4. They are, as part of God's household, being "built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets" of which "Jesus Christ himself [was] the chief corner stone," the stone which the builders rejected
  5. They are being "framed together" as a "holy temple in the Lord" along with the Jewish remnant
  6. They are "also builded together [with believing Jews] for an habitation of God through the Spirit."
Paul points to the saints now being fellowcitizens of the heavenly Jerusalem, to which all who believe, Jew or Gentile, have access by faith on the basis of the shed blood of Christ by the Holy Spirit:
{18} For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. {19} Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
We have drawn near to what Abraham sought:


(Heb 11:8-16 KJV) By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. {9} By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: {10} For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. {11} Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised. {12} Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, so many as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable. {13} These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. {14} For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. {15} And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. {16} But now they desire a better country, that is, AN HEAVENLY: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.
WE ARE CITIZENS OF THE HEAVENLY COMMONWEALTH
Before the foundation of the world God had a plan for the adoption of both Jews and Gentiles to Himself through Christ Jesus. He would do this on earth by gathering both Jew and Gentile into the Church, which is the body of Christ. It might be good to point out here that His purpose in gathering the Gentiles and adding them to the remnant Jewish Church was NOT that they would become Jewish, BUT CHRIST'S (See Other Movements). All become the SPIRITUAL seed of Abraham by faith in Christ and reception of the Holy Spirit, not by the flesh. We are reconciled to God and thus become heirs of eternal life and heirs of the promises in Christ. This was not, and is not, an entrance into the commonwealth of natural Israel. And it is not a replacement for Israel, but rather being placed in Christ through whom we are reconciled to the Father, who for 4,000 years worked for the time when He would reconcile both Jew and Gentile [all men who believe] to Himself. What it was, and is, is a drawing near to the heavenly commonwealth of spiritual Israel:


(Eph 2:12-14 KJV) That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the COMMONWEALTH of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: {13} But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. {14} For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;


COMMONWEALTH 4174. politeia, pol-ee-ti'-ah; from G4177 ("polity"); citizenship; concr. a community:--commonwealth, freedom.
In Christ, who fulfills the covenants and promises made to Israel, we are now citizens of the heavenly commonwealth of Israel:


(Phil 3:20 KJV) For our conversation [citizenship] is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: (Heb 12:22-24 KJV) But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, {23} To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, {24} And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
(Heb 13:12-14 KJV) Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate. {13} Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach. {14} For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come.
(Gal 4:24-27 KJV) Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. {25} For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. {26} But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. {27} For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
We are presently absent from the heavenly commonwealth and therefore, sojourners upon earth as citizens of heaven. If we are alive when Jesus returns at the end of the 70th week, we'll see Him bring the spirits of the dead saints with Him to raise their bodies from the dead and unite all of us under His reign during the millennium:


(1 Th 4:15-18 KJV) For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. {16} For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: {17} Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. {18} Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
For a supplementary article, you can read Outside The Gate."
THOSE WHO DIED IN FAITH AND ALSO THE LIVING SAINTS ARE NOW ONE BODY IN CHRIST
It was also God's purpose to gather together the saints already in Heaven (Old Testament saints and later the New Testament saints who would die before Christ returns), and those on earth [New Testament saints] into one body with Christ as head, as described in verse 10 of Ephesians 1:


(Eph 1:4-14 KJV) According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: {5} Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, {6} To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. {7} In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; {8} Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; {9} Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: {10} That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: {11} In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: {12} That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. {13} In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, {14} Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.






(Eph 3:14 KJV) For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, {15} Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
(Eph 4:4-10 KJV) There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; {5} One Lord, one faith, one baptism, {6} One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. {7} But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ. {8} Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. {9} (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? {10} He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things,


The sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross reached back to redeem the saints who died under the Old Covenant and brought them into a relationship with Him under the New Covenant. Together we are made complete in the one body of Christ. The saints in heaven now are NOT segregated into groups of "Israel saints" and "Church saints" awaiting separate resurrections and separate destinies. They are one in Christ and all share the same eternal inheritance:


(Heb 9:14 KJV) How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? {15} And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
(Heb 11:39 KJV) And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: {40} God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.




(Heb 12:22-24 KJV) But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, {23} To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, {24} And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
Notice the unified relationship between the New Testament saints and the Jewish saints of the Old Testament in these passages also:


(Matthew 8:11 KJV) And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. {12} But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
(Mat 19:27-29 KJV) Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore? {28} And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. {29} And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.
(Luke 13:26-29 KJV) Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. {27} But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. {28} There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out. {29} And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.


It is important to keep these scriptures in their proper frametime, which is after the seven year tribulation.
THE MYSTERY PAUL SPOKE OF IS NOW REVEALED
The fact that the Gentiles would be "fellowheirs" and of the "same body" with the Jewish saints is what the "mystery" is all about. We are united with the Old Testament saints in Christ. How can all inherit what was promised? Through having the same righteousness that comes through faith in Christ:


(Eph 3:4-6 KJV) Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) {5} Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; {6} That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:


There is only one body of Christ and it consists of both Jewish and Gentile believers. Scripture clearly states that Christ died for all men:


(2 Cor. 5:14 KJV) For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead:
15 And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.
16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.
21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.


THE GENTILE SAINTS WILL ALSO INHERIT THE PROMISES TO ABRAHAM


(Heb 6:12-20 KJV) That ye be not slothful, but followers of them who through faith and patience inherit the promises. {13} For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he sware by himself, {14} Saying, Surely blessing I will bless thee, and multiplying I will multiply thee. {15} And so, after he had patiently endured, he obtained the promise. {16} For men verily swear by the greater: and an oath for confirmation is to them an end of all strife. {17} Wherein God, willing more abundantly to show unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath: {18} That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us: {19} Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil; {20} Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedech.


When the time arrived, God established His New Covenant WITH THOSE WHO WERE UNDER THE LAW [Jews] and brought the believing Jews into the grace of the New Covenant, to which the Gentiles would be added. We now have the same blessings and promises as spiritual sons of Abraham:


(Gal 4:4-7 KJV) But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, {5} To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. {6} And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father. {7} Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.


Pentecost opened wide the door of salvation to the Jews, followed later by the Gentiles, and all who believe become members of His body, with all to be gathered together (those in heaven and on earth) at Jesus' coming.



THE DECEPTION Introduction
Part 1: A "New" Abraham Prophesied 300 Years Ago
Part 2: A "New" Abraham, A "New Child," A "New" Israel
Part 3: A Look At The Abrahamic Covenant
Part 4: The Abrahamic Covenant: An Ongoing, Unfulfilled Mystery?
Part 5: The Abrahamic Covenant: Everyone Failed To Fullfill It
THE CHURCH AND ISRAEL IN SCRIPTURE
Part 6: Salvation Is Of The Jews
Part 7: Israel Divided By The First Coming Of Christ
Part 8: The Mystery Of God Revealed To Save Both Jew And Gentile
Part 9: The Jews First, Then The Gentiles
Part 10: God Has Not Cast Away His People Israel
Part 11: A Closing Word Main Home Page




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Wednesday, August 25, 2010

Chancellor Williams - Destruction of Black Civilization

http://www.scribd.com/doc/33300072/Chancellor-Williams-Destruction-of-Black-Civilization

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Ryooken
4 months ago
@OnlyTheWeakNeedHelp Again it's not all about personal responsiblity. Personal responsibility plays a role yes but it's not the only responsibility. It's about community responsibility. That excuse has been used to disenfranchise non-whites for far too long. If find it interesting that you don't talk about personal responsibility when it comes to defending the nation but when it comes to benefitting blacks it becomes all about personal responsibility.

Ryooken
4 months ago
@OnlyTheWeakNeedHelp Wrong again I draw your attention to no child left behind. You will notice that it was purposefully underfunded even though the testing standards were still in place. Here is the deal if you want something to succeed then you give it the resources for it to do so. Blacks have always enmass had a substandard education this is why so many blacks are self taught. It's a nice way of limiting competition.

Ryooken
4 months ago
@OnlyTheWeakNeedHelp Again you are justifying. You just said a few posts ago that if people dressed properly. You are using the European standard. You didn't use dressed neatly but properly. This is one of many socialogical racism standards that non-whites are subjected to. I suggest you look at the studies on the subject.


Saturday, May 29, 2010

Tea Party

LBJ Talks to Martin Luther King, Jr. about the Vietnam War

Telephone Conversation - July 1965

Starting in 1965, King began to express doubts about the United States' role in the Vietnam War. In an April 4, 1967 appearance at the New York City Riverside Church—exactly one year before his death—King delivered a speech titled "Beyond Vietnam." In the speech, he spoke strongly against the U.S.'s role in the war, insisting that the U.S. was in Vietnam "to occupy it as an American colony" and calling the U.S. government "the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today." He also argued that the country needed larger and broader moral changes:

"A true revolution of values will soon look uneasily on the glaring contrast of poverty and wealth. With righteous indignation, it will look across the seas and see individual capitalists of the West investing huge sums of money in Asia, Africa and South America, only to take the profits out with no concern for the social betterment of the countries, and say: 'This is not just.'"

King also was opposed to the Vietnam War on the grounds that the war took money and resources that could have been spent on social welfare services like the War on Poverty. The United States Congress was spending more and more on the military and less and less on anti-poverty programs at the same time. He summed up this aspect by saying, "A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death."

Many white southern segregationists vilified King; moreover, this speech soured his relationship with many members of the mainstream media. Life magazine called the speech "demagogic slander that sounded like a script for Radio Hanoi," and The Washington Post declared that King had "diminished his usefulness to his cause, his country, his people."

King stated that North Vietnam "did not begin to send in any large number of supplies or men until American forces had arrived in the tens of thousands." King also criticized the United States' resistance to North Vietnam's land reforms. He accused the United States of having killed a million Vietnamese, "mostly children."

The speech was a reflection of King's evolving political advocacy in his later years, which paralleled the teachings of the progressive Highlander Research and Education Center, with whom King was affiliated. King began to speak of the need for fundamental changes in the political and economic life of the nation. Toward the end of his life, King more frequently expressed his opposition to the war and his desire to see a redistribution of resources to correct racial and economic injustice. Though his public language was guarded, so as to avoid being linked to communism by his political enemies, in private he sometimes spoke of his support for democratic socialism. In one speech, he stated that "something is wrong with capitalism" and claimed, "There must be a better distribution of wealth, and maybe America must move toward a democratic socialism."

King had read Marx while at Morehouse, but while he rejected "traditional capitalism," he also rejected Communism because of its "materialistic interpretation of history" that denied religion, its "ethical relativism," and its "political totalitarianism."

King also stated in his "Beyond Vietnam" speech that "true compassion is more than flinging a coin to a beggar....it comes to see that an edifice which produces beggars needs restructuring." King quoted a United States official, who said that, from Vietnam to South America to Latin America, the country was "on the wrong side of a world revolution" King condemned America's "alliance with the landed gentry of Latin America," and said that the United States should support "the shirtless and barefoot people" in the Third World rather than suppressing their attempts at revolution.

King spoke at an Anti-Vietnam demonstration where he also brought up issues of civil rights and the draft. "I have not urged a mechanical fusion of the civil rights and peace movements. There are people who have come to see the moral imperative of equality, but who cannot yet see the moral imperative of world brotherhood. I would like to see the fervor of the civil-rights movement imbued into the peace movement to instill it with greater strength. And I believe everyone has a duty to be in both the civil-rights and peace movements. But for those who presently choose but one, I would hope they will finally come to see the moral roots common to both."

Friday, May 07, 2010

Rainchild on the Economy

First of all no I don't listen to Lyndon Lerouche. You wanna know where my Economic Doctrine comes from? Stephen Zarlanga's the Lost Science of Money. Go and read it! I also read from essays by Benjamin Franklin whom I admire and somewhat Identify myself with. I NEVER read anything from Lerouche okay? SO there isn't going to be an argument over that because I'm not going to defend him.

Ron Paul's Economic doctrine comes from Adam Smith one of the MINOR founding fathers. He was friends with Jeremy Bentham who was a British agent. Bentham wrote an essay called "In Defense of Usury". The Mises insitute, which is linked to Ron Paul's campaign for liberty website has lovely essays like, "The case for a 100% gold dollar", and "In defense of the Robber Barons". (The Rockefellers).

Ron Paul's economic doctrine is the same as scharzanegger's. Cut everything, and hope the economy recovers.

The fact is Ron Paul wants us to do a) cut spending Obama wants us to do be B) subsidize banks that make nothing useful for the economy (which, is a vindication of Herbert Hoover's spending plan). When we should be doing C) revolutionize industry

Even the GOP says that we should spend SOME money. The Austrian economist says don't spend anything.

I don't care if Roosevelt was a Zionist, what he did worked, and we recovered. And I haven't seen any proof that he was. I've seen proof that Churchhill was.

And besides everything that was nationalized during the Roosevelt era was done through chapter 11 of the United state code. It's called a banking seizure and it's a required under the US code to do so. There is nothing communist about it because he didn't legislate it. By not seizing these bankrupt banks our government is breaking the LAW, and is making it harder to reform our debt money system. Everything he nationalized was temporary. It was done to convert policies not control business.


Even Roosevelt said referring to the bill that repealed the gold standard that he had not read the bill in fact no one had read it, but it passed. If he's zionist then why would he be allowed to do that even if he was ignorant of it? Who influenced our government to get rid of the gold standard then?


And who was the first to call Roosevelt a communist? Why it was the John Birch Society, which was funded by Nelson Rockefeller (zionist). Who was behind the Iran contra? why It's the Council for National policy, some of which were members of the John Birch society. The council for national policy set up Clinton's impeachment. They want a theocratic government in the United States. And what is Ron Paul an unofficial member of? The controlled John Birch Society. He's even been in a documentary with these people.


You want to balance the budget? Be prepared for a recession or in this case a depression.

http://wealthmoney.org/budget.html


Andrew Jackson is no hero. He may have ended the bank, but he also single handedly triggered the panic of 1837, which caused a depression, which led to the civil war with his imbecilic Specie Circular of 1836.

Read that again... I was clearly talking about Obama. NOT RON PAUL

Ron Paul is on the A train obama is on the B train I'm on the c train. can't you even read?


And here's your proof that the John Birch society was Rockefeller funded

http://www.seekgod.ca/rockefeller.htm


What he's talking about by making the federal reserve note "legal tender" is to make the federal reserve a bureau of the treasury with the American monetary act. If we did that the treasury would only be able to pay interest to itself. Ending it would allow foreign banks to parasite off of us like the bank of England did in the panic of 1837, but it's more likely that this time the dollar would be replaced with SDR's. If the federal reserve note is distributed by th treasury than there are no treasury notes,which means no loans from central banks, which means no interest, which means it's not based on debt. It makes the Federal reserve a PUBLIC BANK.





-Rainchild



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Of course i obviously agree, there has to be a form of saftey net for the very situation we are currently witnessing ( An incalculable Depresssion that will result in starvation and death if not addressed ). I would agree , it has to be reformed to prevent the massive abuse (Like illegal aliens not paying for it and getting the benefits anyway) , but to call medicaid/medicare "Socialism" is by definition a falsehood and is a big problem because calling a social net, "Socalism" or "Marxism" in this case narrows everyones views to the Preditory Capitalist System VS. the "Socialist" system when infact, you can of course have none of the above if you broaden your perspectives. I see the labeling of all Government activities as "Marxist Socialism" , which the mises website does in nearly all of their articles as a deadly threat to humanity.... which is why i attempt to highlight that "Marxist Socialism" is when the Government Seizes the Means of Production - not when the Government constitutionally provides for the General Welfare of the public. I know you understand this, so do not think i am attacking you here, i am merely highlighting it because i think it's very important.


In regards to both systems being the same, i'd certainly have to disagree with you there.... due to the fact that a fixed exchange rate system would allow the new currency to be pegged to current price levels to avoid the very deflation that an actual domestic gold coin barter standard would result in. That is the major issue here, an International Gold Standard can be pegged to current price levels, but a Domestic Gold Coin standard obviously cannot due to the impossibility of obtaining enough Gold to peg to current price levels..... In addition, a Domestic Gold Coin standard is the use of a commodity as Currency , which i've highlighted as not a "Storage Unit of Wealth" - but a means of exchange valued by a Nations net productive output per capita. So what you have here is using a volatile piece of metal (in the case of Gold) being used as a currency. This means gold mining drives currency levels as opposed to economic expansion - i believe doing this is a grave mistake and a also addressed this in my original post, as Mining for Gold really bears to resemblence to an actual economies expansion rate at all, while Infrastructure infact directly represents an economies expansion rate.

In regards to competeing currency (Specifically for private obligations) i'd also have to disagree , the reality of the situation is that this has indeed been attempted by none other than Andrew Jackson, and the result wiped out the perceived "Weaker" currency, and many families savings were wiped out along with it just because they held state issued notes and not gold convertable notes (Which later imploded the economy anyway)..... so i would also disagree that a competeing currency would help becuase the weaker currency would inevitably be dumped and wiped out. If there were a way to introduce competeing currency without this threat - i perhaps would not be opposed to it, but to my knowledge i simply cannot think of a way for a competeing currency to provide for the General Welfare Clause in any way shape or form.

-Revolt 426

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In our current situation the "Not matter what" phrase i used still stands. In my view, saving human lives during a Depression is far more important than deficit spending to "Balance the Budget" , as Mouslini said in his drive towards Corporatism, as Mayor Bloomberg and Arnold Schwarzeneggar parroted recently during economic hardships in regards to cutting public programs..... and as Obama is saying to "Cut Medicaid , Medicare" and now, Social Security - if however, we seized the insolvent banks rather then bailing them out and ended our occupation of numerous countries it is my sincere beleif it would not put us into debt, specifically with good monetary reform that increases the nations physical productive capabilities. The point of a social net is not only a moral one to provide health care (I'd suggest reforming and expanding medicare/medicaid) , but one that preserves the nations productive workforce from being wiped out, because without that workforce there is obviously no chance of a recovery.

I'd also emphasize as Webster Tarpley did - no gutting of Social Security during a Depression. We are well aware 401k's/Pensions have been wiped out and with GM/Ford (Our last productive industry) going down this is going to drastically expand this problem.

As you can see from the following, the powers that be are still to this day parroting the Mousilini "Balance the Budget" during economic hardship stuff, all the while completely dumping every cent of our GDP into bailing bankers out of a black hole......


-Revolt 426

It's Now Public: After Health Care, Obama Intends to Dismantle Social Security

June 17, 2009 (LPAC)—None other than Mr. Peter Orszag himself took to the pages of today's Financial Times to assure London financiers, that "once health-care reform is in place," Social Security is next on the Obama administration's chopping block. The pledge by President Obama's Office of Management and Budget Director is made in the concluding paragraph of a signed op-ed touting the Obama administration's fascist health-care reforms as "A Medical Plan to Boost America's Fiscal Health;" not to secure human health, but that of the financial system.

In its June 10 report on its annual review of the U.S. economy, the International Monetary Fund reported that it had received similar assurances from Obama administration officials: "We welcome the Administration's intention to work toward developing a political consensus on Social Security reform once health-care reforms are complete," the IMF wrote. This arm of the usurious monetarist system insisted the U.S. must be ready to further bailout Wall Street if necessary, but "substantial further measures will be needed to rein in soaring entitlement costs over the longer term."

Thus, is it again made bare, that the intention of the current fascist controllers of the Obama administration, is to rip up the U.S. Constitution, its General Welfare clause, and the entitlement programs which defend human life. With FDR's life-saving Social Security program still in place, old people in the United States may not "get out of the way" as fast as Prince Philip would like. Deny them health care and Social Security both, in the middle of an economic breakdown crisis, and killings en masse are guaranteed.

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As a re-occuring phenomina in the U.S., i would like to address this issue shortly.

This has been planned for years , and the secession is part of the plan. The plan is to Break the United States into pieces.

The Plan has been derived by Bankers and Royalty in London, The Netherlands and Saudi Arabia with their collective moles in Wallstreet.

This is repeatative issue that has once caused a Civil War, that is always orchestrated the SAME EXACT WAY, and i will explain how, obviously to some people's disliking but it has to be said regardless.

It always starts with the Country going back on the Gold Standard. There is no denying this if you wish to go throug the Nations history of Un-Correctable Depressions, each was caused by the Gold Standard besides our Current one, which took twice as long to create because it was designed to be a Globalized Meltdown based on Privatized Central Banks.

What a Gold Standard does in reality, is it puts a CAP on production and population levels..... Contrary to some myths, an economy is driven by physical production, and the private sector is driven by the Nations underlying infrastructure. For example, a very specific example because we are witnessing the very same thing that occured in the mid 1800s known as the Civil War, which was an attempt by Lord Palmerston on behalf of the British Empire to cut the United States in half.

This began with Andrew Jackson enstating a Domestic Gold Standard, Coins or Convertable notes to compete with the State issued currency. People began purchasing the Gold Notes and using them for transactions - this resulted in the disintigration of the State issued currency which bankrupted many people in the Nation. Eventually, the Gold Convertable Notes were over-lent and a bubble was formed..... Followed by Martin Van Buren, who established Independent Treasuries to make loans in the name of the free markets, this bubble expanded and exploded in 1837 resulting in the Great Panic of 1837, a Depression that lasted nearly a Decade.

The reality of this Depresion is, the Nation never recovered. What happened was, the Government - being bankrupt and on the Gold Standard, was unable to issue currency for PRODUCTIVE means. That means building roadways, bridges and other infrastructure required for production and trade to function. As a population GROWS, the infrastructure must be MODERNIZED, or the population will fall into poverty. If the Currency circulation levels do not match the population on a Gold Standard...- you get deflation.. which means it is extremely hard to obtain currency.

The South was hit very hard by this and was very much de-undustrialized for it's time........ This unfortunately lead to the South becoming Dependent on Slave Labour with the HELP of the British and Dutch who were shipping them in via the East India Company and other Dutch Ships.

Over the next 20+ years the Nation was on the Gold Standard, and never recovered..... more and more the South became dependent on Slave Labour to produce capital. The British eventually sent in Agents such as Confederate General Albert Pike and other infiltraitors on behalf of Lord Palmerston, who was ready to attack Lincoln's army on a whim if Robert E. Lee won certain battles. Lord Palmerston also made free trade agreements with the South to purchase low priced Cotton from Slave Labour without tariffs , which is the real reason why they began seceeding. They did not want a protective tariff because they were dependent on the Dutch and the British to function economically.

When Abraham Lincoln came to office, numerous states seceeded from the Union - this was going according to the British Plan to cut the Nation in Half. The Nation was 100% BANKRUPT and unable to fund the war, or build anything because the Gold Standard did not provide the necessary currency to expand the economy.

Lincoln took the Gold Standard down, and Revived the Greenback and issued them directly into Infrastructure projects. His projects were in the form of Science Driver economics, which was the Intercontinental Railway and Agriculture Science... These are essentially low or zero interest federal loans in which the Government provides currency to build something then recovers it when it is built.

As Lincoln began his projects, more states began seceeding from the Union under British lead agents and this became a tremendous problem. The British controlled confederacy attempted to assassinate Lincoln numerous times , Lincoln however had balls of steel and was not afraid at all. His biography is quite incredible.

Anyway, we all know what happened during the Civil War, but it is often unsaid that the entire war was orchestrated by the British Empire. Eventually, Czar Nicholas the Second of Russia sent his Navy to Block any BRITISH attempt ( yes, Russia has ALWAYS been our ALLY) to intervene in the Civil War.

After the war was won, Lincolns greenback had modest inflation because it was funded by the credit of the United States as opposed to borrowing from other Nations, HOWEVER - His Intercontinental Railway and other infrastructure/science driver investments paved the way for an economic boom.

The Railway in particular freed us from British Controlled Trade and i will explain the idea behind this. In the 19th Century, the British Empire was a MARITIME empire, meaning they operated by NAVAL POWER. There was no Nation on the planet that could match British Naval Power alone.......

This meant they controlled the NAVAL trade routes which the U.S. had been depending on prior to the railways completion.. and this was the primary reason Lincoln was assassinated.

His Intercontinental Railway allowed the United States, with it's own Sovereign Currency, to bypass British controlled trade routes with high speed , Nation Wide Transport. This obviously cut costs and sped transport up massively........ Things like this SPUR economies. Things like Hydro-Electric Dams, Bridges and Waterways in the 1930's SPUR economies.......

Without an underlying infrastructure, you cannot have a productive modernized economy with any decent living standards because you would end up on the local barter system.

Therefor, Lincoln's victory over the British during the Civil War was not of Matmatical economics, but of SCIENTIFIC ECONOMICS

So i would advocate everyone to be very weary, this is being setup on the model of the Civil War, our country has been De-industrialized by a Private Central Bank that can act beyond Congressional Appropriations and issues currency via loans to other banks rather then direct issuence into infrastructure like Lincolns Greenback Model.

Do not blame the Greenback for the currenct crisis, because we do not have a Greenback. We have a FEDERAL RESERVE BACK, which is nothing of the sort. Since the Death of Franklin Roosevent and the Death of JFK, Currency has not been issued via Federal Lending into infrastructure but rather printing and loaning from one private bank to other private banks to do whatever they want with.

A currencies value is determined by the Nations ability to produce and Transport goods that other nations wish to purchase. After the Intercontinental Railway was completed, as i said we had an economic boom. This was a direct result of that railway and economic policy. The current situation is, all of the private banks are BANKRUPT, so it is required that to preserve current population levels, the nations infrastructure be rebuilt and modernized to match the populations needs to produce and transport physical goods that other nations wish to purchase. When other nations purchase these goods, they sell their currency and purchase our currency to buy them, this makes our currency stronger.... Gold does not do the trick in these regards...

-Revolt 426

Saturday, March 20, 2010

Quotes to Remember

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Quotes to Remember
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Why these quotes? The reason is that today with Sollog , his buddy J. P.
Essense, historical revisionists and other people who don’t believe in tons of
people or much anyone else in the 1700’s-1800’s fighting for equality and
slavery, so I’ve devised these quotes to put the Nail in the coffin and set the
record straight. It blows the half-truthers out of the water. This includes 20+
quotations so enjoy. The people included in these quotes include:

-Abraham Lincoln
-John Wesley
-Henry David Thoreau
-William Lloyd Garrison
-Frederick Douglass
-William Seward
-John Laurens
-Richard Henry Lee
-Luther Martin
-Richard Allen
-Noah Webster
-Sojourner Truth
-Thaddeus Stevens
-Benjamin Rush
-James Madison
-Patrick Henry




1). “"Whenever I hear any one arguing for slavery I feel a strong impulse to see
it tried on him personally." (The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by
Roy P. Basler, Volume VIII, "Speech to One Hundred Fortieth Indiana Regiment"
(March 17, 1865), p. 361.)

2). “Perhaps you will say, "I do not buy any Negroes; I only use those left me
by my father." So far is well; but is it enough to satisfy your own conscience?
Had your father, have you, has any man living, a right to use another as a
slave? ...

It cannot be, that either war, or contract, can give any man such a property in
another as he has in his sheep and oxen. Much less is it possible, that any
child of man should ever be born a slave. Liberty is the right of every human
creature, as soon he breathes the vital air; and no human law can deprive him of
that right which he derives from the law of nature. ... Give liberty to whom
liberty is due, that is, to every child of man, to every partaker of human
nature. Let none serve you but by his own act and deed, by his own voluntary
choice. ...” (John Wesley (1703-1791), excerpt from 1774 pamphlet "Thoughts upon
Slavery")


3). “Under a government which imprisons unjustly, the true place for a just man
is also a prison. The proper place today, the only place which Massachusetts has
provided for her freer and less despondent spirits, is in her prisons, to be put
out and locked out of the State by her own act, as they have already put
themselves out by their principles. It is there that the fugitive slave, and the
Mexican prisoner on parole, and the Indian come to plead the wrongs of his race
should find them; on that separate but more free and honorable ground, where the
State places those who are not with her, but against her - the only house in a
slave State in which a free man can abide with honor.


If any think that their influence would be lost there, and their voices no
longer afflict the ear of the State, that they would not be as an enemy within
its walls, they do not know by how much truth is stronger than error, nor how
much more eloquently and effectively he can combat injustice who has experienced
a little in his own person. Cast your whole vote, not a strip of paper merely,
but your whole influence. A minority is powerless while it conforms to the
majority; it is not even a minority then; but it is irresistible when it clogs
by its whole weight.


If the alternative is to keep all just men in prison, or give up war and
slavery, the State will not hesitate which to choose. If a thousand men were not
to pay their tax bills this year, that would not be a violent and bloody
measure, as it would be to pay them, and enable the State to commit violence and
shed innocent blood. This is, in fact, the definition of a peaceable
revolution.”( Henry David Thoreau, Civil Disobedience (1849)


4). “Abolitionism, what is it? Liberty. What is liberty? Abolitionism. What are
they both? Politically, one is the Declaration of Independence; religiously, the
other is the Golden Rule of our Savior. I am here in Charleston, South Carolina.
She is smitten to the dust. She has been brought down from her pride of place.
The chalice was put to her lips, and she has drunk it to the dregs. I have never
been her enemy, nor the enemy of the South, and in the desire to save her from
this great retribution demanded in the name of the living God that every fetter
should be broken, and the oppressed set free.

I have not come here with reference to any flag but that of freedom. If your
Union does not symbolize universal emancipation, it brings no Union for me. If
your Constitution does not guarantee freedom for all, it is not a Constitution I
can ascribe to. If your flag is stained by the blood of a brother held in
bondage, I repudiate it in the name of God.


I came here to witness the unfurling of a flag under which every human being is
to be recognized as entitled to his freedom. Therefore, with a clear conscience,
without any compromise of principles, I accepted the invitation of the
Government of the United States to be present and witness the ceremonies that
have taken place today.

And now let me give the sentiment which has been, and ever will be, the
governing passion of my soul: "Liberty for each, for all, and forever!"( William
Lloyd Garrison, speech at Charleston, South Carolina (14th April, 1865)


5). “A beloved friend from New Bedford prevailed on Frederick Douglass to
address the convention. He came forward to the platform with a hesitancy and
embarrassment, necessarily the attendants of a sensitive mind in such a novel
position. After apologizing for his ignorance, and reminding the audience that
slavery was a poor school for the human intellect and heart, he proceeded to
narrate some of the facts in his own history as a slave, and in the course of
his speech gave utterance to many noble thoughts and thrilling reflections.

I shall never forget his first speech at the convention - the extraordinary
emotion it excited in my own mind. I think I never hated slavery so intensely as
at that moment; certainly, my perception of the enormous outrage which is
inflicted by it, on the godlike nature of its victims, was rendered far more
clear than ever.

It was at once deeply impressed upon my mind, that, if Frederick Douglass could
be persuaded to consecrate his time and talents to the promotion of the
anti-slavery enterprise, a powerful impetus would be given to it, and a stunning
blow at the same time inflicted on northern prejudice against a colored
complexion.” (William Lloyd Garrison met Frederick Douglass soon after his
escaped from slavery. In 1841 he recruited him as an agent for the American
Anti-Slavery Society.)


6). “The slave system is one of constant danger, distrust, suspicion, and
watchfulness. It debases those whose toil alone can produce wealth and resources
for defense to the lowest degree of which human nature is capable, to guard
against mutiny and insurrection, and this wastes energies which otherwise might
be employed in national development and aggrandizement.

In states where the slave system prevails, the masters directly or indirectly
secure all political power and constitute a ruling aristocracy. In states where
the free-labor system prevails, universal suffrage necessarily obtains and the
state inevitably becomes sooner or later a republic or democracy.

The two systems are at once perceived to be incongruous - they are incompatible.
They never have permanently existed together in one country, and they never can.
Hitherto, the two systems have existed in different states, but side by side
within the American Union. This has happened because the Union is a
confederation of states.


But in another aspect the United States constitute only one nation. Increase of
population which is filling the states out to their very borders, together with
a new and extended network of railroads and other avenues, and an internal
commerce which daily becomes more intimate, is rapidly bringing the states into
a higher and more perfect social unity of consolidation. Thus, these
antagonistic systems are continually coming into closer contact, and collision
results.

The Democratic Party derived its strength originally from its adoption of the
principles of equal and exact justice to all men. So long as it practised this
principle faithfully, it was invulnerable. It became vulnerable when it
renounced the principle, and since that time it has maintained itself not by
virtue of its own strength, or even of its traditional merits, but because there
as yet had appeared in the political field no other party that had the
conscience and the courage to take up, and avow, and practice the life-inspiring
principle which the Democratic Party surrendered.

At last, the Republican Party had appeared. It avows now, as the Republican
Party of 1800 did, in one word, its faith and its works, "Equal and exact
justice to all men." The secret of its assured success lies in that very
characteristic, which in the mouth of scoffers constitutes its great and lasting
imbecility and reproach.

It lies in the fact that it is a party of one idea; but that idea is a noble one
- an idea that fills and expands all generous souls - the idea of equality - the
equality of all men before human tribunals and human laws, as they are equal
before the divine tribunal and divine laws.” (William Seward, speech, Rochester,
New York (25th October, 1858)


7). “The argument in favor of an Industrial College (a college to be conducted
by the best men, and the best workmen which the mechanic arts can afford; a
college where colored youth can be instructed to use their hands, as well as
their heads; where they can be put in possession of the means of getting a
living whether their lot in after life may be cut among civilized or uncivilized
men; whether they choose to stay here, or prefer to return to the land of their
fathers) is briefly this: Prejudice against the free colored people in the
United States has shown itself nowhere so invincible as among mechanics. The
farmer and the professional man cherish no feeling so bitter as that cherished
by these. The latter would starve us out of the country entirely. At this moment
I can more easily get my son into a lawyer's office to study law than I can into
a blacksmith's shop to blow the bellows and to wield the sledge-hammer.”
(Frederick Douglass, letter to Harriet Beecher Stowe (8th
March, 1853)


8). “I am one of those who believe that it is the mission of this war to free
every slave in the United States. I am one of those who believe that we should
consent to no peace which shall not be an Abolition peace. I am, moreover, one
of those who believe that the work of the American Anti-Slavery Society will not
have been completed until the black man of the South, and the black men of the
North, shall have been admitted, fully and completely, into the body politic of
America. I look upon slavery as going the way of all the earth. It is the
mission of the war to put it down.

I know it will be said that I ask you to make the black man a voter in the
South. It is said that the coloured man is ignorant, and therefore he shall not
vote. In saying this, you lay down a rule for the black man that you apply to no
other class of your citizens.


If he knows enough to be hanged, he knows enough to vote. If he knows an honest
man from a thief, he knows much more than some of our white voters. If he knows
enough to take up arms in defence of this Government and bare his breast to the
storm of rebel artillery, he knows enough to vote.

All I ask, however, in regard to the blacks, is that whatever rule you adopt,
whether of intelligence or wealth, as the condition of voting for whites, you
shall apply it equally to the black man. Do that, and I am satisfied, and
eternal justice is satisfied; liberty, fraternity, equality, are satisfied, and
the country will move on harmoniously.” (Frederick Douglass, speech at the
Anti-Slavery Society in Philadelphia during the American Civil War (4th
December, 1863)


9). “I abhor slavery. I was born in a country where slavery had been established
by British Kings and Parliaments as well as by the laws of the country ages
before my existence. . . . In former days there was no combating the prejudices
of men supported by interest; the day, I hope, is approaching when, from
principles of gratitude as well as justice, every man will strive to be foremost
in showing his readiness to comply with the Golden Rule ["do unto others as you
would have them do unto you" Matthew 7:12]. (Frank Moore, Materials for History
Printed From Original Manuscripts, the Correspondence of Henry Laurens of South
Carolina (New York: Zenger Club, 1861), p. 20, to John Laurens on August 14,
1776.)

10). “Christianity, by introducing into Europe the truest principles of
humanity, universal benevolence, and brotherly love, had happily abolished civil
slavery. Let us who profess the same religion practice its precepts . . . by
agreeing to this duty. RICHARD HENRY LEE, PRESIDENT OF CONTINENTAL CONGRESS;
SIGNER OF THE DECLARATION (Richard Henry Lee, Memoir of the Life of Richard
Henry Lee, and His Correspondence With the Most Distinguished Men in America and
Europe, Illustrative of Their Characters, and of the American Revolution,
Richard Henry Lee, editor (Philadelphia: H. C. Carey and I. Lea, 1825), Vol. I,
p. 19, the first speech of Richard Henry Lee in the House of Burgesses of
Virginia.)


11). “I wish to see all unjust and all unnecessary discriminations everywhere
abolished, and that the time may soon come when all our inhabitants of every
colour and denomination shall be free and equal partakers of our political
liberty”( This is John Jay’s letter to Dr. Benjamin Rush at March 24, 1785Jay ID
#9450)


12). “I would most ardently wish to become a member of it [the society in New
York] and . . . I can safely promise them that neither my tongue, nor my pen,
nor purse shall be wanting to promote the abolition of what to me appears so
inconsistent with humanity and Christianity. . . . May the great and the equal
Father of the human race, who has expressly declared His abhorrence of
oppression, and that He is no respecter of persons, succeed a design so laudably
calculated to undo the heavy burdens, to let the oppressed go free, and to break
every yoke. “(William Livingston, The Papers of William Livingston, Carl E.
Prince, editor (New Brunswick: Rutgers University Press, 1988), Vol. V, p. 255,
to the New York Manumission Society on June 26, 1786.)


13). “[i]t ought to be considered that national crimes can only be and
frequently are punished in this world by national punishments; and that the
continuance of the slave-trade, and thus giving it a national sanction and
encouragement, ought to be considered as justly exposing us to the displeasure
and vengeance of Him who is equally Lord of all and who views with equal eye the
poor African slave and his American master. LUTHER MARTIN, DELEGATE AT
CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION” (Luther Martin, The Genuine Information Delivered to
the Legislature of the State of Maryland Relative to the Proceedings of the
General Convention Lately Held at Philadelphia (Philadelphia: Eleazor Oswald,
1788), p. 57; see also Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adoption
of the Federal Constitution, Jonathan Elliot, editor (Washington: Printed for
the Editor, 1836), Vol. I, p. 374.)


14). “Many of the white people have been instruments in the hands of God for our
good, even such as have held us in captivity, [and] are now pleading our cause
with earnestness and zeal.” (Richard Allen, The Life Experience and Gospel
Labors of the Right Rev. Richard Allen (Nashville: Abingdon Press, 1983), p. 73,
from his "Address to the People of Color in the United States.")


15). “Justice and humanity require it [the end of slavery]–Christianity commands
it. Let every benevolent . . . pray for the glorious period when the last slave
who fights for freedom shall be restored to the possession of that inestimable
right. NOAH WEBSTER, RESPONSIBLE FOR ARTICLE I, SECTION 8, 8 OF THE CONSTITUTION
(Noah Webster, Effect of Slavery on Morals and Industry (Hartford: Hudson and
Goodwin, 1793), p. 48.)


16). “That men should pray and fight for their own freedom and yet keep others
in slavery is certainly acting a very inconsistent, as well as unjust and
perhaps impious, part. JOHN JAY, PRESIDENT OF CONTINENTAL CONGRESS, ORIGINAL
CHIEF JUSTICE U. S. SUPREME COURT” (John Jay, The Life and Times of John Jay,
William Jay, editor (New York: J. & S. Harper, 1833), Vol. II, p. 174, to the
Rev. Dr. Richard Price on September 27, 1785.)


17). “Well, children, where there is so much racket there must be something out
of kilter. I think that 'twixt the negroes of the South and the women at the
North, all talking about rights, the white men will be in a fix pretty soon. But
what's all this here talking about?


That man over there says that women need to be helped into carriages, and lifted
over ditches, and to have the best place everywhere. Nobody ever helps me into
carriages, or over mud-puddles, or gives me any best place! And ain't I a woman?


Look at me! Look at my arm! I have ploughed and planted, and gathered into
barns, and no man could head me! And ain't I a woman?
I could work as much and eat as much as a man - when I could get it - and bear
the lash as well! And ain't I a woman? I have borne thirteen children, and seen
most all sold off to slavery, and when I cried out with my mother's grief, none
but Jesus heard me! And ain't I a woman?


Then they talk about this thing in the head; what's this they call it? [member
of audience whispers, "intellect"] That's it, honey. What's that got to do with
women's rights or negroes' rights? If my cup won't hold but a pint, and yours
holds a quart, wouldn't you be mean not to let me have my little half measure
full?
Then that little man in black there, he says women can't have as much rights as
men, 'cause Christ wasn't a woman! Where did your Christ come from? Where did
your Christ come from? From God and a woman! Man had nothing to do with Him.

If the first woman God ever made was strong enough to turn the world upside down
all alone, these women together ought to be able to turn it back, and get it
right side up again! And now they is asking to do it, the men better let them.

Obliged to you for hearing me, and now old Sojourner ain't got nothing more to
say.” (Sojourner Truth, speech at the Women's Convention in Akron, Ohio (1851)


18). “Since the surrender of the armies of the confederate States of America a
little has been done toward establishing this Government upon the true
principles of liberty and justice; and but a little if we stop here. We have
broken the material shackles of four million slaves.

We have unchained them from the stake so as to allow them locomotion, provided
they do not walk in paths which are trod by white men. We have allowed them the
privilege of attending church, if they can do so without offending the sight of
their former masters. We have imposed on them the privilege of fighting our
battles, of dying in defense of freedom, and of bearing their equal portion of
taxes; but where have we given them the privilege of ever participating in the
formation of the laws for the government of their native land?

What is negro equality, about which so much is said by knaves and some of which
is believed by men who are not fools? It means, as understood by honest
Republicans, just this much, and no more: every man, no matter what his race or
colour; every earthly being who has an immortal soul, has an equal right to
justice, honesty, and fair play with every other man; and the law should secure
him those rights. The same law which condemns or acquits an African should
condemn or acquit a white man.” (Thaddeus Stevens, speech in Congress (3rd
January, 1867)



19). “I repose in this quiet and secluded spot, not from any natural preference
for solitude; but finding other cemeteries limited as to race, by charter rules,
I have chosen this that I might illustrate in my death the principles which I
advocated through a long life, equality of man before the Creator.” (Thaddeus
Stevens, wrote his own epitaph that appeared on a tombstone in an African
American cemetery.)


20). “…One eighth of the whole population were colored slaves, not distributed
generally over the Union, but localized in the Southern part of it. These slaves
constituted a peculiar and powerful interest.


All knew that this interest was, somehow, the cause of the war. To strengthen,
perpetuate, and extend this interest was the object for which the insurgents
would rend the Union, even by war; while the government claimed no right to do
more than to restrict the territorial enlargement of it. Neither party expected
for the war, the magnitude, or the duration, which it has already attained.
Neither anticipated that the cause of the conflict might cease with, or even
before, the conflict itself should cease. Each looked for an easier triumph, and
a result less fundamental and astounding. Both read the same Bible, and pray to
the same God; and each invokes His aid against the other. It may seem strange
that any men should dare to ask a just God's assistance in wringing their bread
from the sweat of other men's faces; but let us judge not that we be not judged.
The prayers of both could not be answered; that of neither has been answered
fully. The Almighty has his own purposes.


"Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences
come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!" If we shall suppose that
American Slavery is one of those offences which, in the providence of God, must
needs come, but which, having continued through His appointed time, He now wills
to remove, and that He gives to both North and South, this terrible war, as the
woe due to those by whom the offence came, shall we discern therein any
departure from those divine attributes which the believers in a Living God
always ascribe to Him?

Fondly do we hope--fervently do we pray--that this mighty scourge of war may
speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue, until all the wealth
piled by the bond-man's two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be
sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash, shall be paid by
another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it
must be said "the judgments of the Lord, are true and righteous altogether"


With malice toward none; with charity for all; with firmness in the right, as
God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in; to
bind up the nation's wounds; to care for him who shall have borne the battle,
and for his widow, and his orphan--to do all which may achieve and cherish a
just and lasting peace, among ourselves, and with all nations. (Portions of the
Second Inaugural Address Washington D.C.
March 4, 1865)


21). “Domestic slavery is repugnant to the principles of Christianity. . . . It
is rebellion against the authority of a common Father. It is a practical denial
of the extent and efficacy of the death of a common Savior. It is an usurpation
of the prerogative of the great Sovereign of the universe who has solemnly
claimed an exclusive property in the souls of men. BENJAMIN RUSH, SIGNER OF THE
DECLARATION” (Benjamin Rush, Minutes of the Proceedings of a Convention of
Delegates from the Abolition Societies Established in Different Parts of the
United States Assembled at Philadelphia (Philadelphia: Zachariah Poulson, 1794),
p. 24.)


22). “"We have seen the mere distinction of color made in the most enlightened
period of time, a ground of the most oppressive dominion ever exercised by man
over man."
-- James Madison, speech at the Constitutional Convention, June 6, 1787


23). "Every measure of prudence, therefore, ought to be assumed for the eventual
total extirpation of slavery from the United States ... I have, throughout my
whole life, held the practice of slavery in ... abhorrence."
-- John Adams, letter to Robert Evans, June 8, 1819


24). “[W]e must deny the fact, that slaves are considered merely as property,
and in no respect whatever as persons.

The true state of the case is, that they partake of both these qualities: being
considered by our laws, in some respects, as persons, and in other respects as
property. In being compelled to labor, not for himself, but for a master; in
being vendible by one master to another master; and in being subject at all
times to be restrained in his liberty and chastised in his body, by the
capricious will of another, the slave may appear to be degraded from the human
rank, and classed with those irrational animals which fall under the legal
denomination of property.

In being protected, on the other hand, in his life and in his limbs, against the
violence of all others, even the master of his labor and his liberty; and in
being punishable himself for all violence committed against others, the slave is
no less evidently regarded by the law as a member of the society, not as a part
of the irrational creation; as a moral person, not as a mere article of
property.
-- James Madison, Federalist, no. 54

25). I believe a time will come when an opportunity will be offered to abolish
this lamentable evil."
-- Patrick Henry, letter to Robert Pleasants, January 18, 1773

By TruthSeeker
8:46 am. EST
July 23, 2003

Jesuits and Calvin

From www.jesus-is-lord.com/calvin2.txt




From: "Scott Berner"
To:
Subject: [WhoreOfRevelation_17] Augustine and Calvin: Bedfellows Indeed
Date: Saturday, December 07, 2002 10:27 PM

I am sending this file out to promote a great book by Dave Hunt. I really
believe that everyone would greatly benefit from the truth contained in
this book. I know Dave is wrong on the pre-trib rapture and he orientation
to "eternal security" (basically Calvinist election.) I still say this is
a good book to have in your library and to use to teach your kids, family,
church, etc. It is NO WONDER that Dave's ministry is inundated with hate
mail from Calvinists. It is such a horrible testimony to respond to the
Biblical truth and historical testimony in that fashion. A person that is
obstinate and stubborn is a person that does not have a heart for God.

"Rebellion is as witchcraft and stubborness as idolatry."

I attached chapter 4 of "WHAT LOVE IS THIS?" by Dave Hunt as a promotional
piece. I won't send you another chapter. If you are blessed by the
truth.....please go buy the book. Amen.

There is much Calvinism on the internet today. There are many dear folks
who have been horribly deceived. And I hope they look into this objectively
and prayerfully before they try to chop the messengers head off. Amen.

If man has no "freewill".....why does God ask for a FREEWILL OFFERING????

There are SIXTEEN references to FREEWILL OFFERING in the King James Bible.

Ps 119:108 Accept, I beseech thee, the freewill offerings of my mouth,
O LORD, and teach me thy judgments.

There is ONE reference to a FREEWILL.

Ezr 7:13 I make a decree, that all they of the people of Israel, and of
his priests and Levites, in my realm, which are minded of their own
freewill to go up to Jerusalem, go with thee.

Calvinism is really the teaching of the great saint of
Catholicism......AUGUSTINE. Yes, the very one who declared it righteous to
murder those who disagree with his Whorish Mother Church. Calvin was a
great fan of Augustine, as was Spurgeon. There are many Baptists today who
laud over AUGUSTINE. This is a sure sign of their doctrinal corruption.
Yes, Calvin was anticatholic, as was Spurgeon......but they though highly
of at least some of the teachings of AUGUSTINE.....for it is AUGUSTINE who
is the originator of the FIVE POINTS OF CALVINISM. Calvin "borrowed" these
teachings from Augustine. There is a LOT more of this in Dave's book and
LOADS OF DOCUMENTATION AND FOOTNOTES TO PROVE IT.

Yours in Christ,

Scott

PS.....God is calling all of us to SMASH OUR IDOLS MADE BY THE HANDS AND
MINDS OF MEN!!! Who will follow? Who will be saved??

********************************
PSALMS 12:6-8
The words of the LORD are pure words:
as silver tried in a furnace of earth,
purified seven times. Thou shalt
keep them, O LORD, thou shalt
preserve them from this generation
forever. The wicked walk on every
side, when the vilest men are exalted.
********************************
"The Black Pope and His Jesuit Conspiracy"


And also From : www.jesus-is-lord.com/calvin.pdf

Saturday, January 30, 2010

George Grant's literature

http://www.commentary.net/freebooks/docs/a_pdfs/gggi.pdf

The Jesuits in Great Britain

http://www.reformation.org/jesuits-great-britain.html

King James (from Christkeep site)

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King James and Edward de Vere discuss

King James

Edward de Vere
There have been many questions and “distortions” on Edward de Vere and King James; I hope to clear them up.
This artificial conversation between King James and Edward de Vere (modeled after Daemonologie) will go through REAL documents and quotes, as well to create a realistic conversation as possible integrating the nature of the two writers. It is indeed artificial; yet, I have integrated and extensively referenced everything of importance what King James and Edward de Vere have said and wrote.
Note: citations for referencing are labeled in red, whilst verses are labeled in green. All quotes from actual speeches are in an olive-green colour. All references are listed at the bottom of this document – please refer to them if you wish not to read the conversation I have created.

Edward de Vere: I am very glad to have met you this day; truly ye are the true shepherd of Christ’s flock [1]. There hath been controversies and doubt upon mine countenance, as well as distortion to your person. I think it is meet since thou canst removeth the veils of doubt, and cast the myths thereof into oblivion. Verily, thou art the correct one to dispatch the devil’s tidings.
King James: I perceive many of these questions shall consult upon God’s Word, and the sundry lack of studies from others who hath devised these devilish lies!
Edward de Vere: Firstly, I pray you, dispatch the argument used against us of our poetry and writings, and secondly, rebukes to the various actions we are accused of (such as Papistry, Witchcraft, and Sodomy).
King James: It is very meet that one writeth poetry away from the Bible, lest one confuseth the words of God therein like the papists [2]. If one should confront the Bible, there should be an distinguish of the two. I oft wrote of pagan gods in mine poems [3] – yet I was not ignorant of the true divine: Jesus Christ. Christ deserveth not to be stuffed in a poem (as the papists stuff their god in bread [4]); rather, Christ deserves the glory in truthful writings. I think one can shadow truths from Jesuits, the devil’s pernicious vermin [5], that teareth Christ from the hearts of men [Luke 8:12-13], as ye have done in Othello by calling them Turks [6], I also hath done the same in writing of them in mine Meditation of Revelation.
Edward de Vere: Indeed, I also hath exposed a plot of the Jesuits to kill that good Queen Elizabeth [7] in which they now have an unquenchable wrath against me. As ye know, Queen Elizabeth oft called me “her Turk” for that reason – and for my traveling to Italy. I think of a truth, that God’s Word to be influential and the source of wisdom, I did read mine Geneva Bible daily – for – faith cometh by hearing as ye have stated in the Basilikon Doron [Romans 10:17]. I hath wrote sundry references to the Words of God in my plays, sonnets, and other attributes thereon.
King James: This can be so if directly inferring without mixing the Bible, as you hath done in the Merchant of Venice on Act I, Scene 2, ye write: “I know it is a sin to be a mocker,” in this I applaud, ye even go to saith: “God defend me from these two,” for God is our defender [Psalm 31:2] and comforter [John 14:26]. However, thou should remember, the Apocrypha canst not be taken as God’s Word [8].
Edward de Vere: There hath been questions upon Freemasonry, what are the troubles therein that it merits? I certainly am accused of such an act – as ye are too.
King James: Indeed, Freemasonry in its highest forms goes against Biblical assets, one of the most prominent is of oaths, we are commanded not to swear or make an oath – lest they come at us upon the bema [9]. There wast occasions that I hath hired an Freemason for building by the name of William Schaw, and, attended their vain meetings (which is comparable to a papist mass of murmuring and repetitious prayer [10]) as part of a King’s duty; but only Christ is the truth, I never hath heeded their lies [11], nor have I gone in their rituals that climb high as the sins of Papistry [Revelation 18:5]. I heard there are many, who, believe that thou art a Freemason? This cannot be, you hath wrote in the sonnets: “And broils root out the work of masonry.” You surety wert addicted to learning thus have associated many aspects including Freemasonry (but as yet, ye never did entertain your countenance to be partaker and sup at the devil’s table, merely writing as a form of poetry). I assume this is but an jest of the masons and how your works shall pass for longevity, however, the Jesuits, those damnable Turks, may distort us in due time – but by the grace of God the truth shall remain.
Edward de Vere: Indeed I wast verily addicted to learning [12], I read books from afar on all subjects including Freemasonry – and if they wert far from mine sight – I did hath them commissioned and ordered such as the Geneva Bible I doth read. Thou art correct, truth shall remain as I have wrote: “For truth is truth, though never so old, and time cannot make that false which was once true.” I also referenced this in Measure for Measure: “For truth is truth, to the end of reckoning [13].” I would ask thee to dilate upon Papistry.
King James: Ye hath indeed tasted Papistry and Satan therein [7], also, being troubled by many Papists such as Vavasour’s uncle – who hath lamed thee (in which ye cleverly wrote of such in thy sonnets). In all certainty, you clearly abandoned the papists – for, they have indeed given you perdition – ye now come back to the truth and call me the true Shepherd of Christ’s flock. Concerning the Papist massacre of the Huguenots, from that devilish Gregory XIII, ye commented it: “And think, if the Admiral in France was an eyesore or beam in the eyes of the papists, that the Lord Treasurer of England is a block and a cross-bar in their way [14].” I hath written in Daemonologie, Basilikon Doron and Meditation on Revelation about the erring of Papists in numerous depths [15]. Clearly we are unfit to be Papists for we hath both enraged the Papacy. Of truth, Queen Elizabeth would indeed abhor us if we followed Papistry.
Edward de Vere: Please expound on the accusations of Sodomy.
King James: I reject Sodomy as a sinful practice in the Basilikon Doron; by doing those sins ye shall never forgive your conscience, or have an hard time doing so [16]. There hath been many who accused me of such; they wert removed from mine office and were erring in points of religion: they wrested God’s Words in their own conceits instead of following the precise rules set down [17]. As for you also, they maketh lies in their vain imaginations, Henry Howard, Charles Arundel, and Francis Southwell hath created a long list of false accusations [18], they vainly say ye hath taken a young Italian boy; this seems the more fraudulent that I can never believe it!
Edward de Vere: I would trouble you once more to refute claims of witchcraft and pagan philosophies that many attribute to our being.
King James: I believe I hath made it clear with the very title of my book “Daemonologie” that I wrest not my conscience with the devil or his devices therein that are a snare [19]. As for ye, it was, again, the three “Henry Howard, Charles Arundel, and Francis Southwell” who accused you of demonology.
Edward de Vere: I thank thee very much for clearing all matters up, and dispatching the devil into his place and all accusations thereof.
FINIS
References:
[1] Edward de Vere calls King James “the true shepherd of Christ’s flock” In a letter to Robert Cecil in 1603.
[2] King James writes in Daemonologie: “...and many words of God, confusedly wrapped in...” referring that people often mix God’s Word with pagan things – such as Catholics, Jesuits, Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Muslims, Freemasons etc.
[3] King James writes in his sonnet #10 “O Furious Mars, thow warlyke souldiour bold,” however, this is not inferring that King James believed in silly pagan Roman gods – it was simply poetry and meant to be taken as poetry, not as God’s Word or biblical studies.
[4] King James writes in Daemonologie: “I think it is so contrary to the quality of a natural body, and so like to the little transubstantiate god in the Papists’ Mass, that I can never believe it.”
[5] King James calls the Jesuits “pernicious vermin” in Meditation of Revelation, as well as expounding of “Turks” as well correlating to de Vere’s Othello.
[6] Edward de Vere writes in Othello: “The desperate tempest hath so bang’d the Turks That their designment halts...” Turks refers to the Jesuits and Armada.
[7] “During the latter 1570’s, the whole-souled Oxford had remained unsuspicious as his intimacy with his Catholic cousins and their circle of intellectual friends increased. Finally... they recklessly confided to him, in December, 1580, their plans to overthrow Elizabeth and place Mary Queen of Scots on the throne of England. To their horror, Oxford went at once to the Queen – the sovereign to whom, as a feudal knight, he had sworn undying fealty.” - The Renaissance Man of England, Dorothy and Carlton Ogburn
[8] King James writes in the Basilikon Doron: “And as to the Apocrypha books, I omit them, because I am no Papist, as I said before”
[9] King James writes in the Basilikon Doron: “and especially, beware to offend your conscience with use of swearing or lying (suppose but in jest): for oaths are but an use, and a sin clothed with no delight nor gain, and therefore the more inexcusable...” this is a very strong statement from King James, saying that oaths are the MORE inexcusable [before God].
[10] King James writes in Daemonologie: “And this far only I touch, that when the conjured Spirit appears, which will not be while after many circumstances, long prayers, and much muttering and murmuring of the conjurers; like a Papist priest, dispatching a hunting Mass...”
King James writes in the Basilikon Doron: “In your prayer, be neither over strange with God, like the ignorant common sort, that prayeth nothing but out of books”
[11] King James writes in the Basilikon Doron: “I thank God, I was never ashamed to give account of my profession, howsoever the malicious lying tongues of some have traduced me...”
King James writes in Daemonologie: “My intention in this labour, is only to prove two things, as I have already said: the one, that such devilish arts have been and are. The other, what exact trial and severe punishment they merit...”
King James writes in Daemonologie: “...the Law of God, wherein are all Magicians, Divines, Enchanters, Sorcerers, Witches, and whatsoever of that kind that consults with the Devil, plainly prohibited, and alike threatened against.”
[12] A poet in 1569 said this about Edward de Vere: “I do not deny that in many matters, I mean matters of learning, a nobleman ought to have a sight; but to be too much addicted that way, I think it is not good.”
[13] A quote that survives under Edward de Vere’s name: “For truth is truth, though never so old, and time cannot make that false which was once true.”
A quote inside Measure for Measure: “For truth is truth, to the end of reckoning.”
[14] Edward de Vere wrote this to William Cecil in 1572: “And think, if the Admiral in France was an eyesore or beam in the eyes of the papists, that the Lord Treasurer of England is a block and a cross-bar in their way.”
[15] “ ...holy-water (whereby the Devil mocks the Papists)...” - Daemonologie
“And therefore as in the time of Papistry, our fathers erring grossly, and through ignorance, that mist of errors overshadowed the Devil to walk the more familiarly amongst them...” – Daemonologie
“And therefore I would not have you to pray with the Papists, to be preserved from sudden death...” – Basilikon Doron
[16] King James writes in the Basilikon Doron: “There are some horrible crimes that ye are bound in conscience never to forgive: such as witchcraft, willful murder, incest, and sodomy.”
[17] King James writes in the Basilikon Doron: “But above all, beware ye wrest not the word to your [own] appetite, (as over many do), making it like a bell to sound as ye please to interpret: but by the contrary, frame all your affections to follow precisely the rules there set down.”
[18] Henry Howard, Charles Arundel, and Francis Southwell accused Edward de Vere of: demonology, heresy, treason, homosexuality, “buggering a boy that is his cook and many other boys,” such as one brought back from Italy, habitual drunkenness, declaring that Elizabeth had a bad singing voice, swearing to murder various courtiers etc. These are all false, and often, many people attribute these to be “factual” not understanding that their purpose was to spread lies about Edward de Vere.
[19] King James writes in Daemonologie: “...but only such, as first willfully deceives themselves, by running unto him, whom God then suffers to fall in their own snares, and justly permits them to be illuded with great efficacy of deceit, because they would not believe the truth (as Paul saith).”
Related Articles:
Basilikon Doron
Daemonologie
Meditation on Revelation [20:7-10]

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