Monday, October 12, 2009

JFK Jr.

www.barrychamish.com

JFK JR. - TEN YEARS AFTER
by Barry Chamish

At 9:20 PM, July 16,1999, John Fitzgerald Kennedy Jr. radioed the tower at an airport near Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts announcing that he was preparing to land. Seconds after, his plane exploded in mid-air, and this was witnessed by several witnesses including a local newspaper reporter and an attorney. On board were his wife Caroline Bessette and her sister Lauren. Lauren's luggage was recovered miles from the crash site, an event that can only be caused by a mid-air explosion.
For reasons that would later become clear, search for the missing plane was delayed for 5 hours, when Pres. William "Bill" Clinton sent out the equivalent of the Sixth Fleet to find the wreckage, hide it and the bodies from the snoopy media, and though JFK Jr. was never in the Navy, and though the families did not consent, cremate the corpses, or evidence, and throw the ashes into the water in a quickly planned, elaborate, Navy funeral at sea.
Behind the scenes, a hokey cover story was concocted. The weather, which was perfect, became stormy. JFK Jr. had a gimpy leg. Reports by the FAA and FBI, both concluding foul play was involved, were buried, the arrival of Israeli PM Ehud Barak to Clinton's court the day before was given an alternative explanation...In fact JFK Jr.'s profound affect on Israel was never mentioned.
But it was huge. In the March, 1997 issue of his magazine, George, JFK Jr. became the only publisher of a major American publication to expose the conspiracy to murder Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin. His 13 page expose shook the Israeli establishment to it's foundations:

Jewish Web Network News April 02 1997

Israeli Prime Minister Rabin's widow charged Tuesday that John Kennedy Jr.'s magazine crossed "the red line" by publishing an article by the mother of her husband's assassin. "How, of all people, could he do such a thing?" Mrs. Kennedy asked of the son of President Kennedy who was assassinated in 1963. "Perhaps he needed a sensational story to sell his paper. I would expect that he would take a higher moral stand in his paper."
The article claimed that Amir was goaded to shoot Rabin by an undercover agent for the Shin Bet, Israel's security agency. (It) thought it would be done with a doctored gun. The security force let the attack happen so they could take credit for saving the prime minister.

And JFK Jr. was about to publish the final truth about Rabin's murder. This, Israel could not allow. It's operatives were called into action.This interview with JFK Jr.'s driver appeared in Maariv shortly after the Piper crash.

HE COULD BARELY WALK, HOW DID HE FLY?
Yoel Katzavman drove John Jr. 48 hours before the plane broke up. "He was a quiet and humble client."
"How could he have flown that plane with a broken leg? It was really suicidal?," said Yoel Katzavman (38), a limousine driver born in Hakiriot, who drove the Kennedy couple many times. Katzavman arrived in the US three years before and was employed by the Empire limousine service. He was often called to drive John Jr. and Carolyn Kennedy from their New York apartment. He recalls his last ride with John Jr., less than 48 hours before the final takeoff.

It was this self-serving interview that raised my suspicions and I went looking. Here is what I wrote in July, 2009:

So now what do we do about the information coming out on the explosion of JFK Jr.'s plane? The day it happened I wrote that JFK Jr. was doing more than any other American media figure to get to the bottom of the Rabin assassination truth. I reminded readers that his magazine George ran a 13 page expose of the Shabak's involvement in the assassination. I suggested that this was a brave but risky stand. Then came the tidal wave of data. The FBI Preliminary Report confirming the bomb on the plane and noting the type of explosive was used by certain foreign intelligence services. This was followed by Catherine Crier of Fox TV's The Crier Report, announcing that JFK Jr. was about to meet high ranking Mossad officers to get the full story on the Rabin assassination. Then the German newspaper, Franfurter Allgemaine Zeitung, reported that Kennedy had met with the deputy chief of the Mossad, Amiram Levine to get the full story on the Rabin assassination two days before his plane went down. Then Maariv ran an interview with JFK's chauffeur, who happens to be Israeli. Then people started noting that Ehud Barak was in Washington at the time of Kennedy's finale in life.

And I was not alone in my investigation:

WORLD AFFAIRS BRIEF August 27 1999 Copyright Joel M. Skousen.
Quotations with attribution permitted.

JFK JR. ASSASSINATION:
Evidence continues to mount that JFK jr. and passengers were
killed by an altitude triggered bomb planted in the tail section of the
plane.
Here is the evidence: Kennedy*s sister in law's ( Lauren
Bessette ) suitcase was found miles out in the ocean, away from the crash
site. Lawyer Victor Pribanic was on the shore fishing and heard the
explosion from the same location and time frame where the plane went
down. The wreckage of the plane was recovered under *national security*
conditions and no reporters were allowed to see or photograph it. The
wreckage was loaded on to sealed containers and taken away. The FAA report
indicated the recovered engine was fully functional. The presumed bad
weather that caused Kennedy to spiral into the water was some 8 miles
away from the crash site at that time, so the report of bad weather was
part of the cover-up.

Soon after, a correspondent wrote me:

re JFK Jr.

At the time his plane went down, I was living in Massachusetts.
Kerryville. The state has gone under.
On the particular day, I heard the news.
A reporter for The Vineyard Gazette who was on the island, was quoted as having seen the plane come down to land, and to have seen a flash on the plane. Next thing the plane went out of control and crashed into the sea below.
He was quoted on the internet saying this.
Having been a reporter, and having seen many other events go down [I get put in this situations, to witness, etc.] I decided to call the reporter in question.
Somehow I quickly reached him.
He repeated the story.
Next, the article disappeared from the internet, and no more report was made on the news which included any of the information from the eye-witness reporter.
Next, I noticed this disappearance of the article, and called the reporter back.
All of a sudden he no longer existed.
I couldn't find him no matter what I did, despite my having spoken to him hours before.
Gone.

There were reports that JFK Jr. was planning to run for the New York senate seat that Hillary Clinton coveted. Hence the motive. Indeed, that may have been a factor. Pres. Clinton called in the Navy to hide the crime, his so-called Shalom Haver friendship with Rabin was clearly a sham, and his wife's political ambitions could have been promoted by murdering JFK Jr.
But, looking at the priorities, Shimon Peres and the "peace" process had to be protected first. The brave and wonderful publisher JFK Jr. was set to explode all the myths surrounding the murder of Rabin. Unless he exploded first.

end

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U9RAc9ksB0

http://www.radioliberty.com Press Listen Online

http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/green/T...ionOfJFKJr.html


On Oct. 8-12, I'll be in Omak, Washington. Write my organizer:

triumphpro@aol.com

Followed by a lecture in Abbotsford, BC. Now this is complicated. The last time I was in Canada, the Americans wouldn't let me back in. This time I am married to an American and the marriage is looking more and more settled and permanent with time. But, my fear may switch the lecture to the American side of the border, 5 minutes away. Write my BC organizer for all the exciting details:

hosheanu@yahoo.ca


As I promised, and thanks to MM, I can now offer my book THE conPROMISED LAND for $20, plus postage instead of the lulu.com price of $34 + postage. Order away:

Barry Chamish
POB 840157
Saint Augustine, FL 32080 USA

Paypal: chamishba@gmail.com

Compare the price:

THE conPROMISED LAND can be ordered direct from the publisher http://www.lulu.com/content/paperback_book...ed_land/6398777

One of the members of this list is sending me endless copies of a very valuable book, The Vatican's Holocaust by Avro Manhattan.
It tells the horrifying story of the worst religious holocaust of the 20th century led by Pope Pius 12. 237 pages, filled with rare photos. And...It's yours for free. The only cost will be postage, envelopes, gas to the post office, say $6 in the States. Overseas the postage will be higher but the book itself is free.

Send me your mailing address and I'll get it to you.

PS
I'll add my two Vatican DVDs, one recorded in Jerusalem, the other in Atlanta if you ask, a bit more money BUT without profit.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3557853190547322236


And, if you want the unread world's news sent to you by my modestly priced special newslist, write me at chamish@netvision.net.il
From curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=49&i=6202



Subject: Re: EPILOGUE By TRUTHSEEKER24
From: dp9 | All dp9's Messages |
Date: 12/2/2005 11:55:08 AM ( 100 min ago ) ... viewed 9 times since Feb 20 2005

2tuff,

I am always grateful when you bring Truthseeker to CZ. I like him not only because of his faith, which matches mine closely, but because he is insightful, knowledgeable, and knows how to communicate in prose. He always backs up his opinions and comments with research and examples. He's not full of hype, not a sensationalist, not a simple-minded parrot, not an enbittered ex-patriot, but rather he is respectful of the opinions of others, whether he agrees with said opinions or not. I can take a guy like TS, weigh what he says against what others say, and form my own positions on important issues.

I also appreciate you, 2tuff. You have a respectable reputation on the Net now, and people are beginning to quote you as a source. You not only are exposing the agenda of the RCC, a story which must be told, but you also bring to light important research done by legitimate and even Nobel-prize winning scientists in the field of alternative medicine.

Press on.
-Donna

Wednesday, September 16, 2009

U.S. To Pump Thousands Of Combat Enablers Into Afghanistan

From http://www.roguegovernment.com/U.S._To_Pump_Thousands_Of_Combat_Enablers_Into_Afghanistan/17290/0/15/15/Y/M.html

U.S. To Pump Thousands Of Combat Enablers Into Afghanistan
Published on 09-16-2009
Email To Friend Print Version

Source: Antiwar
Top US defense officials say that roughly 3,000 additional troops, which are classified not as combat troops but rather “combat enablers,” will be deployed to Afghanistan in the coming days.
Officials say the decision was made roughly two weeks ago, which puts it at about the same time that the Pentagon was publicly announcing that it was pulling 14,000 support troops from the nation to add 14,000 more “trigger pullers” to the conflict.

Rather, it now seems that the non-combat troops are being replaced by the combat troops, and then new non-combat troops are being added as well, effectively an escalation of the number of troops involved in the conflict under the guise of adding “non-combat” troops. This escalation comes in addition to the expected request of another 20,000 troops from Gen. McChrystal.
The US escalation on the ground comes amid growing evidence that the war is being lost, both in real terms and popular terms. But though the Obama Administration has made much of a promised “civilian surge” to bring stability to the war zone, it is now being conceded that little is going to result from it. The focus seems pretty much entirely on combat at this point, whether enabling it or engaging in it.

The Kremlin and Iran

http://www.rferl.org/content/The_Kremlin_Wants_A_War_in_Iran/1824223.html

Tuesday, August 25, 2009

Monday, August 03, 2009

Greece To Enforce Mandatory Swine Flu Vaccinations

From http://www.prisonplanet.com/greece-to-enforce-mandatory-swine-flu-vaccinations.html

Greece To Enforce Mandatory Swine Flu Vaccinations

No exceptions to immunization of 12 million, says health minister

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Monday, August 3, 2009

Greece has become the latest country to announce it will enforce a mandatory swine flu vaccination program, despite fears about the jabs containing mercury and squalene.
Despite the fact that there have been no deaths whatsoever from swine flu in the Mediterranean country, the Greek government has resolved to immunize its entire population of 12 million, all but guaranteeing that several thousand at least will be injured or be killed by the vaccine which is set to be fast tracked in Europe with no human testing at all.
“We decided that the entire population, all citizens and residents, without any exception, will be vaccinated against the flu,” Health Minister Dimitris Avramopoulos said after a ministerial meeting.
“We are only waiting for the European Union’s approval to start vaccinating everyone,” a Health Ministry official told Reuters.
As we highlighted last week, many batches of the H1N1 vaccine will will contain mercury, a toxin linked with autism and neurological disorders. Cases of autism in the U.S. have increased by 1,500 per cent since 1991, which is when vaccines for children doubled.
The swine flu jab will also contain the dangerous ingredient squalene, which has been directly linked with cases of Gulf War Syndrome and a host of other debilitating diseases.
(ARTICLE CONTINUES BELOW)

Squalene “contributed to the cascade of reactions called “Gulf War syndrome. (GIs developed) arthritis, fibromyalgia, lymphadenopathy, rashes, photosensitive rashes, malar rashes, chronic fatigue, chronic headaches, abnormal body hair loss, non-healing skin lesions, aphthous ulcers, dizziness, weakness, memory loss, seizures, mood changes, neuropsychiatric problems, anti-thyroid effects, anaemia, elevated ESR (erythrocyte sedimentation rate), systemic lupus erythematosus, multiple sclerosis, ALS, Raynaud’s phenomenon, Sjorgren’s syndrome, chronic diarrhea, night sweats and low-grade fever,” according to Micropaleontologist Dr. Viera Scheibner.
Health authorities in both the UK and the U.S. have implied that the upcoming mass vaccination program against H1N1 will be mandatory, but no formal decision has been communicated to the public. However, both countries are in the process of purchasing enough doses to cover the entire population.

A member of the public who was concerned about a mandatory mass vaccination program in light of the swine flu pandemic called the Arkansas State Health Department for advice only to be told that mandatory vaccines were constitutional and could be enforced at gunpoint by the government if necessary.
Pharmaceutical companies can be assured that they won’t face reprisals for the many thousands of injuries and deaths that will inevitably occur as a result of exposing millions to mercury and squalene during a mass vaccination program, because the government has already acted to provide them with blanket immunity from lawsuits.
“Vaccine makers and federal officials will be immune from lawsuits that result from any new swine flu vaccine, under a document signed by Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius,” reported the Associated Press last month.

Ellen White




http://www.scribd.com/doc/3302588/Ellen-G-White-Uses-Masonic-Words


http://www.cephas-library.com/seventh_day_adventists/7th_day_adventism_freemasonry.html

http://www.cephas-library.com/sda_why_the_obelisk_on_ellens_grave.html

http://www.libertytothecaptives.net/explanation_websites.html

Thursday, July 16, 2009

Jesse Jackson

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=687

G. Craig Lewis

From http://web.archive.org/web/20071105011644/http://www.pulpit-pimps.org/archives/2007/06/13/to-pimp-or-not-to-pimp-only-craige-can-say-for-sure



To Pimp or Not to Pimp? Only Craige Can Say for Sure
You’ve been waiting patiently. For that I thank you. Here is my response.

I don’t believe Mr. Lewis is a pimp. That is, I don’t believe he is trying to get rich by telling you to give him money and by selling you worthless sermons, trinkets, or prayer cloths. And as far as I can verify independently, I don’t see that he does any of the things one generally attributes to the subjects of this web site. Yes, he promotes tithing. And yes, he does say “turn to your neighbor and say [fill in the blank]. But those things do not a pimp make.

I have listened to several interviews and a couple of segments from his presentation. I’ve even looked at several of the PowerPoint slide presentations he uses. They were available for download (free) from his site (click here ). The fact that he gives away anything is a major argument against his pimping.

In at least a couple of his presentations he actually took a shot at the men and women we have identified as pimps and pimpettes. Of course this doesn’t automatically clear him of pimpdom since our boy Manning (here or here ) also attacks the pimps – while doing exactly what he rails against them for.

Yes, Mr. Lewis sells his DVDs. But I don’t really have a problem with that because, strictly speaking, he isn’t presenting the Gospel, he is presenting his reasons for being against the use of a Hip Hop style of music and persona in presenting the Gospel. In other words, he is presenting the results of his efforts to uncover various aspects of the lives of Hip Hoppers, the history of the music, the effects of the music, and other stuff that goes into his presentation. This does take work and if he gets paid for it, it’s only fair.

Churches do indeed pay him to speak to their congregation and anyone else who may be interested in listening. Again, I don’t see that this is a bad thing. There is the idea of the laborer being paid for his efforts. After all, it would be difficult for Lewis to feed, clothe, and house his family if he wasn’t compensated for what appears to be a full time effort.

According to one newspaper article Mr. Lewis gathers in $700,000 in DVD sales. But again, he is offering people information – not about how they can get rich - information that Mr. Lewis perceives to be beneficial to the buyers’ spiritual health. It costs money to buy the equipment and supplies to burn DVDs. It also takes personnel to man the equipment and to keep the business/ministry going. Volunteers can only go so far.

Basically, with respect to the activities, I don’t see Mr. Lewis as doing anything any different than such “conferences” as “Walk Through the Bible”, “Strike the Original Match” and other Christian self-help activities. No better, no worse.

My problem with Mr. Lewis is two-fold. First, he is often very loose with the facts with respect to those things with which he disagrees or disapproves. Second, he’s hard core Pentecostal, with all the excesses that go with Pentecostalism. And often, an unwillingness to look at the facts is one of the excesses.

Apparently, there is some disagreement about the meaning of Hip Hop. He maintains that the phrase means “booty shaking”. The problem, though, is he doesn’t even try to present information that may actually argue in the other direction. For instance, Wikipedia (not always the most reliable of sources) says:

it is believed that Cowboy created the term while teasing a friend who had just joined the US Army, by scat singing the words “hip/hop/hip/hop” in a way that mimicked the rhythmic cadence of marching soldiers (Click here to see the reference ) .

Which one is true? I don’t know. My only point is Mr. Lewis never presents the other information. His motive? I can’t say for certain. But it does seem likely that he wants to make as explosive and as strong a case as possible, leaving no room for doubt about the correctness of his position. Unfortunately, his approach takes the audience for a bunch of sheep who need to be spoon fed and, in essence, told what to think.

Mr. Lewis is not very careful with his facts. He tends to look at the items that support him and ignore the items that don’t. While it certainly isn’t his job to defend Hip Hop, if there are statements that contradict the things he says (e.g. hip hop means booty shaking), these items should be addressed. Doing so can only strengthen his argument. Ignoring them can only weaken his argument.

As I said, Mr. Lewis is very heavily Pentecostal. Ironically, he promotes many of the doctrines and beliefs the pimps use to swindle the sheeple. Specifically, he has no problem with New Testament type Apostles operating now. Along with this is the idea that divine revelation (like that in the Bible) is still coming forth from God.

Additionally, he is very much into experience. For instance, his entire tear against Hip Hop is apparently based on an experience in which God appeared in his bedroom one night. During that visit, God told him to start warning people about the evils of Hip Hop (it’s mentioned at the beginning and again buried fairly deeply in here ).

Overall, I cannot say the man is a pimp. He may be deceived doctrinally, but as I have said before, having bad doctrine is not the same as being a pimp. But of course, all pimps use bad doctrine.

He may indeed have good intentions. But good intentions don’t make your presentation accurate. And bad information hurts your cause more than getting caught with the town floozie.


_______________



Comment by Justin
2007-06-14 06:39:52
Man homie the way you talking it seem like you was waiting and looking for somebody to say something about Mr. Lewis. Wheres the love in that brotha, I hope you praying for him and everbody on the site. But I dont see where you thing this brotha is off at? I mean he told you to look up EVERYTHING he says, in the Word and on the web (because somethings you just got to see to belive).

(MN: Places where I believe he is off:

1. The idea of New Testament Apostles
2. His crusade is motivated by God appearing to him as a light in his bedroom
3. His support of Prophecy as additional words from God
4. His willingness to pronounce a person a homosexual without objective evidence
5. His dismissal of anyone not adhering to a pentecostalism
6. A sloppy understanding of Dispensationalism
7. A willingness to make sweeping statements about those he disagrees with
8. An arrogance that says he will not respond to anyone who sends him an e-mail
9. A heavy appeal to emotion rather than the Word of God
10. A loose handling of facts and information (example: A pierced ear was used as a sign of one Israelite choosing to be a life long slave (servant) of another Israelite (Ex 21:6). It had nothing to do with demon worship)

I could go on, but these are some of the highlights of his wanderings. )



_______________________________

Comment by mrs. maverick
2007-06-17 20:41:15
you see, this is why i call lewis a sensationalist. he ignores the obvious (aaliyah’s plane was over loaded) and attributes her death to the fact that she made a movie called queen of the damned and said in an interview, something to the affect of, she likes the dark side. that was very presumptuous of him to say this is why she died.

he justifies his statement by claiming that every time a horror movie is made, someone directly associated with the movie dies because the devil demands a blood sacrifice. where did he get this information? i wish i could ask him about this “research” but i can’t since he doesn’t allow himself to be questioned.

he also said he believes that God allowed biggie smalls to die because he was getting ready to come out with a 3/6 clothing line and He (God) didn’t want kids walking around wearing the mark of the beast on their clothes. really? well if this is indeed the case, then i wonder why God doesn’t stop the kids that are into heavy metal from doing it. they’ve been doing it for years in some degree or another. beside 3 sixes, they wear goat heads, demons, pentagrams and other representations of evil on their t-shirts or on tattoos. is God more concerned about the hip hoppers than the heavy metalers? again sensationalism.

i just want to know why craige lewis is HELL bent on exposing what SINNERS in the entertainment industry do, say, and sing about? what does he expect from unregenerated man? did aaliyah, biggie, tupac, jay-z, jill scott, erykah, krsone etc ever confess to being Spirit filled believers? i’m not asking, did they ever say they believed in god or thanked god on their albums, but did they ever profess to have repented of their sins, and were now living for Jesus Christ? if they didn’t, then why does he focus on them? maybe it’s because sensationalism sells. look at all the hysteria that surrounded the y2k hoopla. some churches made out like bandits selling survival books and telling people to stock pile food and water. (my former congregation sold books after every service).

i’m of the opinion that although craige may not be a pimp in the same way the tbn crowd are- he certainly has pimpish ways. i think he’s got game and his message is primarily effective within pentecostal and charismatic circles. these denominations for the most part are very accepting of esoteric experiences, demonology, and alot of emotionalism. they’re used to the shock and awe messages and believe that someone must be a man of gawd if they’re coming against some wordly mess. but he only gets over because so many professing Christians are lukewarm and lack a personal relationship w/ Jesus outside their congregations. if they kept their heads in the Bible instead of the tv, gossip columns, music videos and other distractions- they would learn to discern for themselves the things that they should avoid and the things that are pleasing to God.

finally, if parents (noun) would diligently parent (verb) their own children and preachers would teach the whole unadulterated counsel of God- then craige lewis would be out of business- i mean, uh, his “ministry” wouldn’t appear to be so necessary.


________________________

Note by Me: I don't agree with this person's comments about Left Eye Lopez or Aaliyah, so I want to make that clear.

By Timothy

Comment by IndependentConservative
2007-06-18 08:15:43
I asked about the DVDs because I wanted to know.

It’s not enough to just read his site.

If Craige G. Lewis can’t provide enough free materials to make his position understood and what he has freely provided and promotes himself on YouTube has been found to have factual errors, that’s Mr. Lewis’ problem, not mine. If I’ve got to give him money to understand him, that’s a problem and not with me!

He’s a sensationalist, who has painted a style (Hip Hop) into a demon. And you know I’m not even into Hip Hop.

He provides many hours of material for free on his site. Given that (what I’ve reviewed there in text, audio and video) I’ve got issues with the man. He makes many just plain bad statements. He’s really extra-biblical and denounces all who don’t embrace his extra-biblical view. That’s a major problem. That’s how all manner of mess enters the church. I don’t think the DVDs will clear everything up. Unless on the DVDs he admits that these “visions” and “prophesies” pastors have must be in line with scripture. I just wanted to know more about their content. Never mind a word he says about Hip Hop, the man is like an open invitation for familiar and seducing spirits! HIS DOCTRINE IS THE REAL PROBLEM.

We pray for the entire body of Christ and we expose bad doctrine too. Praying for him does not mean we keep our mouths shut. This man has people coming out of Hip Hop mess into legalism and seducing spirits. Thinking they will be closer to God if they are babbling. Encouraging them to follow “visions” because the pastor said he had it and gets upset if someone says the particular “vision” is out of line with scripture. He even denounces people in HHH who say you must stay to scripture, I’ve detailed that in a previous comment in another thread.

Mr. Lewis makes it hard to reach him with criticism, but we know he’s probably reading here. Maybe it will help him. Our discussions help us in our walk and maybe it will help him too.

Regarding Aaliyah and Left Eye, like Mr. Lewis, you’re confusing spiritual matters with physical death. Hugh Hefner looks pretty healthy these days, Louis Farrakhan is still alive, Kim Jung Ill is still alive. If physical death is the measure, why are worse men still alive while those females are dead? Mr. Lewis misapplied scripture. (Based on what was said here, I’m not buying it.) Maybe he makes a lot of other errors on the DVDs, I’m not paying to find out. I’ll give money to some ministers, but not him. He is a minister who is too far into bad doctrine.

I believe many Christians drive into trees and die a physical death, but have eternal life. So Left Eye was not a Christian, drove into a tree and died. Maybe she talked about doing it. Somewhere in the world a Christian might drive into a tree and die today. Hugh Hefner is in his mansion because of his beliefs and physically still alive. Hefner’s odds for physical death today are lower than anyone (Christian or not) who is driving around in a 3rd world country. And especially lower than someone who overloads a plane and has a dope head for a pilot.